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Saturday, February 6, 2010
The Shattering of a Doll's House
Argue for or against Nora's decision at the end of the play. You must take a clear side.(This post closes at midnight on Thursday, Feb. 11, 2010).
Nora is highly justified in her decision to leave Torvald. He does not truly love her, and he treats her as if she is a toy rather than a person. Nora must discover who she is before she is able to raise her children successfully. Also, she realizes that she treats her children like objects just as she was treated, so she decides to break the viscous cycle in which she is consumed. BK-0
When Nora leaves at the end of A Doll’s House, she is beginning a new life. She deserves this fresh start, this opportunity to become an individual, because all her life she has been at the mercy of those around her, like her father and her husband Torvald. While it is regretful that she must leave her children, it is necessary if Nora is to break the cycle of people “playing” with one another, for just as her father and Torvald played with her, Nora has played with her children. Leaving her old life entirely behind will allow Nora to truly think entirely for herself and to have time to simply be Nora.
In Henrik Ibsen’s play, A DOLL’S HOUSE, Nora must leave Torvald so that she can gain her own freedom. Her decision is acceptable because it is her only chance to discover the life of an independent woman. Nora’s decision to leave Torvald and the children is best; she will no longer have to be Torvald’s little “puppet.” Therefore, the "slamming of the door" is the best decision because it allows Nora to begin a new life and leave the old life behind her. GG-0
In A DOLL'S HOUSE, by Henrik Ibsen, Nora decides to pursue indenpendence. I believe her choice to leave her husband and children is relevant because she has never learned to be "Nora". Nora has always known herself to be Helmer's puppet or the mother of her children. I believe the "slamming of the door" in the end of Act III is a great symbol of a fresh start. AL-0
I think that Nora's decision to abandon her husband and children is far too extreme in A DOLL'S HOUSe. Though she needed to break the vicious cycle of puppet masters controlling their doll-children just as both Torvald and her father controlled her and she contols her own children, she simply runs away from her problems. Instead of finding a solution to her problems, Nora flees with the hope that she can find her "new" or "real" self, even believing that everyting will somehow change. Rather than addressing the issue, she leaves her "puppet master" husband with her children, only hoping that he does not simply continue the cycle once she is gone. Even though Nora desperately needs to discover her independence, she completely abandons her responsibilities, totally leaves her children, and finally proves her immaturity. Like a child, she ignores her duties in order to act on a whim, thereby proving that she has much learning before she can overcome her irresponsibility. Though her actions seem justified by the apparent oppression of her husband, Nora acts rashly as she deserts her family to "find herself."
In A DOLL HOUSE by Henrik Ibsen, Nora Helmer makes the only possible decision when she leaves her family in pursuit of independence. Nora is nothing more than a “little lark” trapped behind the bars of a loveless and unequal marriage. Her husband, Torvald, treats her like a child; he regulates her food, constantly chastises her, and gives her no influence over important decisions. Nora’s wants and needs, like eating a macaroon or participating in a serious conversation, are entirely unimportant. Essentially, Nora is not allowed to be an individual person; she is only allowed to be a “perfect” wife and a “perfect” mother. This oppression is extremely harmful to Nora, as is revealed by her constant lies and consideration of suicide. Leaving is the only way to reverse the damage of this oppression. Nora may seem selfish for leaving her children, but whether she stays or leaves, she cannot fulfill her role as mother. She does not raise her children but treats them like toys, just like Torvald treats her. In order to be an individual person, repair and preserve her mental health, and break the cycle of oppression, Nora must leave her family.
I believe that at the end of the play Nora should stay with her family. Her family is such an important part of her life; I believe that they will have to be a part of the discovery to who she truly is. Some may believe that Torvald does not love Nora, but I believe he does. He is just misguided about what a wife should truly mean to a husband. Nora has even taken stands against Torvald, such as dancing the Tarantella after he ask her to stop. I think that if she stayed with him she could have continued to stand up for herself, and she would have eventually been an equal in his eyes. Also, I do not think that it is fair to their children for Nora to leave. She sees the way she treats them is the same way Torvald treats her, and I believe this will inspire her to treat them differently.
Argue for or against Nora's decision at the end of the play. You must take a clear side. (This post closes at midnight on Thursday, Feb. 11, 2010).
7 comments:
Nora is highly justified in her decision to leave Torvald. He does not truly love her, and he treats her as if she is a toy rather than a person. Nora must discover who she is before she is able to raise her children successfully. Also, she realizes that she treats her children like objects just as she was treated, so she decides to break the viscous cycle in which she is consumed.
BK-0
When Nora leaves at the end of A Doll’s House, she is beginning a new life. She deserves this fresh start, this opportunity to become an individual, because all her life she has been at the mercy of those around her, like her father and her husband Torvald. While it is regretful that she must leave her children, it is necessary if Nora is to break the cycle of people “playing” with one another, for just as her father and Torvald played with her, Nora has played with her children. Leaving her old life entirely behind will allow Nora to truly think entirely for herself and to have time to simply be Nora.
JJ-0
In Henrik Ibsen’s play, A DOLL’S HOUSE, Nora must leave Torvald so that she can gain her own freedom. Her decision is acceptable because it is her only chance to discover the life of an independent woman. Nora’s decision to leave Torvald and the children is best; she will no longer have to be Torvald’s little “puppet.” Therefore, the "slamming of the door" is the best decision because it allows Nora to begin a new life and leave the old life behind her.
GG-0
In A DOLL'S HOUSE, by Henrik Ibsen, Nora decides to pursue indenpendence. I believe her choice to leave her husband and children is relevant because she has never learned to be "Nora". Nora has always known herself to be Helmer's puppet or the mother of her children. I believe the "slamming of the door" in the end of Act III is a great symbol of a fresh start.
AL-0
I think that Nora's decision to abandon her husband and children is far too extreme in A DOLL'S HOUSe. Though she needed to break the vicious cycle of puppet masters controlling their doll-children just as both Torvald and her father controlled her and she contols her own children, she simply runs away from her problems. Instead of finding a solution to her problems, Nora flees with the hope that she can find her "new" or "real" self, even believing that everyting will somehow change. Rather than addressing the issue, she leaves her "puppet master" husband with her children, only hoping that he does not simply continue the cycle once she is gone. Even though Nora desperately needs to discover her independence, she completely abandons her responsibilities, totally leaves her children, and finally proves her immaturity. Like a child, she ignores her duties in order to act on a whim, thereby proving that she has much learning before she can overcome her irresponsibility. Though her actions seem justified by the apparent oppression of her husband, Nora acts rashly as she deserts her family to "find herself."
BS-0
In A DOLL HOUSE by Henrik Ibsen, Nora Helmer makes the only possible decision when she leaves her family in pursuit of independence. Nora is nothing more than a “little lark” trapped behind the bars of a loveless and unequal marriage. Her husband, Torvald, treats her like a child; he regulates her food, constantly chastises her, and gives her no influence over important decisions. Nora’s wants and needs, like eating a macaroon or participating in a serious conversation, are entirely unimportant. Essentially, Nora is not allowed to be an individual person; she is only allowed to be a “perfect” wife and a “perfect” mother. This oppression is extremely harmful to Nora, as is revealed by her constant lies and consideration of suicide. Leaving is the only way to reverse the damage of this oppression. Nora may seem selfish for leaving her children, but whether she stays or leaves, she cannot fulfill her role as mother. She does not raise her children but treats them like toys, just like Torvald treats her. In order to be an individual person, repair and preserve her mental health, and break the cycle of oppression, Nora must leave her family.
ST-0
I believe that at the end of the play Nora should stay with her family. Her family is such an important part of her life; I believe that they will have to be a part of the discovery to who she truly is. Some may believe that Torvald does not love Nora, but I believe he does. He is just misguided about what a wife should truly mean to a husband. Nora has even taken stands against Torvald, such as dancing the Tarantella after he ask her to stop. I think that if she stayed with him she could have continued to stand up for herself, and she would have eventually been an equal in his eyes. Also, I do not think that it is fair to their children for Nora to leave. She sees the way she treats them is the same way Torvald treats her, and I believe this will inspire her to treat them differently.
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